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		<title>Comment on Outdoors! by Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Michael,

Thanks for the comments!

Some very strong feelings on the issue. I&#039;d for sure beg to differ! If you can look at an image by Herb Ritts or Avedeon and say it&#039;s looks contrite, I&#039;d have to challenge you and say you&#039;re saying it for shock value. A great photo is a great photo REGARDLESS of how it&#039;s taken. Light isn&#039;t important, the emotion and emphasis behind it in an effort to capture the essence, is.

I disagree and say a professional photographer can and will shoot WHERE EVER it takes, to get the shot.

I&#039;m the polar opposite of you. I WANT to e known for taking perfect shots. It&#039;s why I&#039;m a photographer. I strive for excellence and know that the better I get, the further away it is. I want to take the BEST photo I possibly can and it&#039;s this attitude that has launched me in front of many people that have been shooting twice as long, or have a college degree in photography. I want to shoot the images that makes the client cry, and the art director search my blog monthly looking to see what I upload, so they can email me and tell me they want her or that setup using this model or what not.

Photoshop is a tool. It&#039;s to be used as little or as much as possible. Each job calls for something different. Sometimes I&#039;m a graphic artist, other times I&#039;m a photographer and other times I&#039;m a photojournalist. I am what the client needs me to be as I am a professional. People come to me based off the strengh of my previously presented work. They would never walking away feeling as if I&#039;ve blown the photo, cause they have thousands of images to review, to give them an idea of what I do. If they walk away feeling as if I&#039;ve let them down, then I&#039;ve let them down in the consultation process.

I strive for excellence in everything I do. If I can do this doing something I hate doing, imagine my resolve when it comes to something I love!

But there&#039;s nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion. You are entitled to yours as I am mine. I&#039;m not saying you&#039;re right or I&#039;m wrong, only we differ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
<p>Some very strong feelings on the issue. I&#8217;d for sure beg to differ! If you can look at an image by Herb Ritts or Avedeon and say it&#8217;s looks contrite, I&#8217;d have to challenge you and say you&#8217;re saying it for shock value. A great photo is a great photo REGARDLESS of how it&#8217;s taken. Light isn&#8217;t important, the emotion and emphasis behind it in an effort to capture the essence, is.</p>
<p>I disagree and say a professional photographer can and will shoot WHERE EVER it takes, to get the shot.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the polar opposite of you. I WANT to e known for taking perfect shots. It&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a photographer. I strive for excellence and know that the better I get, the further away it is. I want to take the BEST photo I possibly can and it&#8217;s this attitude that has launched me in front of many people that have been shooting twice as long, or have a college degree in photography. I want to shoot the images that makes the client cry, and the art director search my blog monthly looking to see what I upload, so they can email me and tell me they want her or that setup using this model or what not.</p>
<p>Photoshop is a tool. It&#8217;s to be used as little or as much as possible. Each job calls for something different. Sometimes I&#8217;m a graphic artist, other times I&#8217;m a photographer and other times I&#8217;m a photojournalist. I am what the client needs me to be as I am a professional. People come to me based off the strengh of my previously presented work. They would never walking away feeling as if I&#8217;ve blown the photo, cause they have thousands of images to review, to give them an idea of what I do. If they walk away feeling as if I&#8217;ve let them down, then I&#8217;ve let them down in the consultation process.</p>
<p>I strive for excellence in everything I do. If I can do this doing something I hate doing, imagine my resolve when it comes to something I love!</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion. You are entitled to yours as I am mine. I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re right or I&#8217;m wrong, only we differ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outdoors! by Michael Beckerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Beckerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, the problem I have with shooting indoors using strobes is that no matter what you do, no matter how you light it, it almost always seems to come out looking contrived, manufactured and artificial. To me, that substantially limits and undermines the credibility of the shot. I&#039;m sorry but just about any studio shots I have ever seen, from any photographer, just look fake to me. The models don&#039;t look natural under artificial light and most studio shoots that I&#039;ve seen just come out looking forced and unrealistic to me. Maybe it&#039;s just me and maybe I&#039;m way to sensitive to this issue, but for my money, the single most important component of any shot that you take, under any circumstances, with any model, and in any setting is one simple thing: believability. If the shot looks manufactured, it will be perceived as being manufactured and once that happens (whether you realize it or not, and whether they realize it or not, you have lost a substantial amount credibility with your audience as a result of that). Now, I&#039;m not saying that you have to shoot using only natural light all the time, you certainly don&#039;t, but I am saying you should always strive to shoot with it, as your first choice, every single time you shoot and only fall back on artificial lighting sources when you absolutely have to because you have no other choice in getting the shot. 

This is also the exact same reason why I try very hard not to over Photoshop my shots after shooting them either. I am forever hearing photographers puff their chests out and say &quot;I just got done spending eight hours straight Photoshoping this one photo to get it to look just right!&quot; I have to try very hard not laugh every single time I hear that, and I hear that all the time these days. Guess what? If you have to spend any more than fifteen or twenty minutes editing your shot....then you didn&#039;t take the right shot to begin with! Go back and reshoot it! If you are spending far more time editing your shots then you are taking them, just to get them to look exactly right, then I would say you probably aren&#039;t taking the right shot in the first place. I shouldn&#039;t have to spend so much time editing my photo that by the time I&#039;m done editing them, they don&#039;t even look like my photos anymore (and worse yet, they don&#039;t even look believable to the viewer anymore either!). If I had a dime for every time I saw a terrific shot that was so completely Photoshoped to death, even when it really didn&#039;t have to be, I&#039;d be a rich man. And, I&#039;m sorry to say this, but that really bothers me because at some point, after a certain amount of editing on your photo, you really aren&#039;t a photographer any more...you&#039;re a graphic artist, and those aren&#039;t the same thing to me (and they do not produce the same result!).  

I think one of the biggest mistakes we photographers make is that we get so addicted to trying to create &quot;the perfect shot&quot; all the time...and if we can&#039;t take the perfect shot, then rather than just admitting defeat (and our own limitations as a photographer), we instead go to town with Photoshop (or the editing program of your choice) for hours and try and try and try to manufacture a perfect shot, after the fact, from one that was never really destined to be perfect in the first place. Well, what we don&#039;t realize is that after several hours of editing, what we come up with as a finished product, might be technically be considered &quot;perfect&quot; in the eyes of an editor/graphic artist, but it looks so contrived, so forced, so manufactured and so artificial that it has lost all credibility and believability with the viewer in the process. 

I can only speak for myself here, but I don&#039;t want to ever be known as a photographer that takes &quot;perfect shots&quot;. Why? Because the world around us isn&#039;t a perfect place. Lighting is never perfect, settings are never perfect, backdrops are never perfect, hair and make up are never perfect and models and their poses are never perfect. That&#039;s not a bad thing in my book. That&#039;s just reality. As a matter of fact, I&#039;m quite comfortable with all that because within that lack of perfection that so many photographers/editors strive so hard to avoid all the time, lies two things that I place a far higher value on in my shots: credibility and believability.  I know it&#039;s very unpopular to say in today&#039;s modern world of photography and editing, but I honestly feel that when you pick up that camera and call yourself a photographer, that you owe at least some reverence to the concept of photographic integrity. In light of that, I would much rather have someone look at one of my shots and not like it at all, but truly believe in it, than have them absolutely love one of my shots, but come away feeling that it wasn&#039;t really my shot that they were looking at because it was so over processed and over edited. I realize that saying in today&#039;s modern world might make me a bad photographer. I can live with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, the problem I have with shooting indoors using strobes is that no matter what you do, no matter how you light it, it almost always seems to come out looking contrived, manufactured and artificial. To me, that substantially limits and undermines the credibility of the shot. I&#8217;m sorry but just about any studio shots I have ever seen, from any photographer, just look fake to me. The models don&#8217;t look natural under artificial light and most studio shoots that I&#8217;ve seen just come out looking forced and unrealistic to me. Maybe it&#8217;s just me and maybe I&#8217;m way to sensitive to this issue, but for my money, the single most important component of any shot that you take, under any circumstances, with any model, and in any setting is one simple thing: believability. If the shot looks manufactured, it will be perceived as being manufactured and once that happens (whether you realize it or not, and whether they realize it or not, you have lost a substantial amount credibility with your audience as a result of that). Now, I&#8217;m not saying that you have to shoot using only natural light all the time, you certainly don&#8217;t, but I am saying you should always strive to shoot with it, as your first choice, every single time you shoot and only fall back on artificial lighting sources when you absolutely have to because you have no other choice in getting the shot. </p>
<p>This is also the exact same reason why I try very hard not to over Photoshop my shots after shooting them either. I am forever hearing photographers puff their chests out and say &#8220;I just got done spending eight hours straight Photoshoping this one photo to get it to look just right!&#8221; I have to try very hard not laugh every single time I hear that, and I hear that all the time these days. Guess what? If you have to spend any more than fifteen or twenty minutes editing your shot&#8230;.then you didn&#8217;t take the right shot to begin with! Go back and reshoot it! If you are spending far more time editing your shots then you are taking them, just to get them to look exactly right, then I would say you probably aren&#8217;t taking the right shot in the first place. I shouldn&#8217;t have to spend so much time editing my photo that by the time I&#8217;m done editing them, they don&#8217;t even look like my photos anymore (and worse yet, they don&#8217;t even look believable to the viewer anymore either!). If I had a dime for every time I saw a terrific shot that was so completely Photoshoped to death, even when it really didn&#8217;t have to be, I&#8217;d be a rich man. And, I&#8217;m sorry to say this, but that really bothers me because at some point, after a certain amount of editing on your photo, you really aren&#8217;t a photographer any more&#8230;you&#8217;re a graphic artist, and those aren&#8217;t the same thing to me (and they do not produce the same result!).  </p>
<p>I think one of the biggest mistakes we photographers make is that we get so addicted to trying to create &#8220;the perfect shot&#8221; all the time&#8230;and if we can&#8217;t take the perfect shot, then rather than just admitting defeat (and our own limitations as a photographer), we instead go to town with Photoshop (or the editing program of your choice) for hours and try and try and try to manufacture a perfect shot, after the fact, from one that was never really destined to be perfect in the first place. Well, what we don&#8217;t realize is that after several hours of editing, what we come up with as a finished product, might be technically be considered &#8220;perfect&#8221; in the eyes of an editor/graphic artist, but it looks so contrived, so forced, so manufactured and so artificial that it has lost all credibility and believability with the viewer in the process. </p>
<p>I can only speak for myself here, but I don&#8217;t want to ever be known as a photographer that takes &#8220;perfect shots&#8221;. Why? Because the world around us isn&#8217;t a perfect place. Lighting is never perfect, settings are never perfect, backdrops are never perfect, hair and make up are never perfect and models and their poses are never perfect. That&#8217;s not a bad thing in my book. That&#8217;s just reality. As a matter of fact, I&#8217;m quite comfortable with all that because within that lack of perfection that so many photographers/editors strive so hard to avoid all the time, lies two things that I place a far higher value on in my shots: credibility and believability.  I know it&#8217;s very unpopular to say in today&#8217;s modern world of photography and editing, but I honestly feel that when you pick up that camera and call yourself a photographer, that you owe at least some reverence to the concept of photographic integrity. In light of that, I would much rather have someone look at one of my shots and not like it at all, but truly believe in it, than have them absolutely love one of my shots, but come away feeling that it wasn&#8217;t really my shot that they were looking at because it was so over processed and over edited. I realize that saying in today&#8217;s modern world might make me a bad photographer. I can live with that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Models need more control!&#8221; by Tweets that mention Models want more control over their image and likeness? &#124; Jay Kilgore Model Photography Blog -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Models want more control over their image and likeness? &#124; Jay Kilgore Model Photography Blog -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by jaykilgore, jaykilgore. jaykilgore said: Models: want more control over your images? Want to control what you shoot? read on! http://www.jaykilgore.com/?p=1280 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Real models&#8230;&#8221; by Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charge them, cuts down on the flake factor by 97% 

Your time is worth something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charge them, cuts down on the flake factor by 97% </p>
<p>Your time is worth something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Real models&#8230;&#8221; by Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.jaykilgore.com/?p=1278&#038;cpage=1#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A model is a person that actually shows up to the shoot.  Too many regular girls/guys just flake due to car/cell phone/escort/(insert excuse).  /sigh

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A model is a person that actually shows up to the shoot.  Too many regular girls/guys just flake due to car/cell phone/escort/(insert excuse).  /sigh</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.jaykilgore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The SINGLE most IMPORTANT thing at your shoot? by Barefootpanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barefootpanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice! Thank you so much!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on One by How to Duplicate Professional Camera Filter in Photoshop &#124; PhotoshopDaily.info</title>
		<link>http://www.jaykilgore.com/?p=1265&#038;cpage=1#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Duplicate Professional Camera Filter in Photoshop &#124; PhotoshopDaily.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One simple photo, the before and after edit. &#124; Jay Kilgore Model &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Outdoors with a strobe! by Barefootpanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barefootpanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorgeous model. Nice work!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello friend,

You did miss something great! Good thing for you? We&#039;re doing it all over again in April 2011! Visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meetingofthemasters.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; to sign up NOW to take advantage of the early bird special!</description>
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<p>You did miss something great! Good thing for you? We&#8217;re doing it all over again in April 2011! Visit <a href="http://www.meetingofthemasters.com" rel="nofollow"> to sign up NOW to take advantage of the early bird special!</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice works</description>
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